April 8, 2023
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This is a written transcript of an interview that Jennifer Bilek conducted with James Patrick at Big Picture. You can watch the interview for free on YouTube. I am sharing the transcript with her permission. These are her views, not all of which I share.
There came a point around 2013 or so that suddenly people were being deplatformed for acknowledging biological reality, that we are a sexually dimorphic species, that there are only male and female sexes. We are a sexually dimorphic species, just male and female, and there isn't anything in between.
Transsexualism has been around in the United States probably since the 1950s.
But it wasn't really part of our vernacular or social vernacular at all. There were a few men who had this fetish, this adult male fetish of appropriating female synthetic simulacrums of female biology for their sexual gratification. It used to be cross dressing, transvestites, and then as soon as the medical industrial complex advanced to the point where they could make reasonably good fake sexes, then they started to appropriate female anatomy.
In the 1940s, William Sims Bainbridge was born. He graduated Harvard as a sociology professor. He's written many books about cults, religions, technology, gaming, the future of psychological mind control. And he now works as the head of the National Science Foundation’s Cyber Human Program, it basically oversees the ethics involved in human cyber melding.
And you can see this trajectory in the late 1990s, early 2000s, there was a big shift in the culture from data, from the digital age and the information age, and it moved into artificial intelligence, transhumanism, robots, nanotechnology, biotechnology, et cetera. So this is where we're going now, this is the future trajectory.
But Silicon Valley has been pushing a transhumanist agenda since the early 2000s, late 1990s. So then Bainbridge meets up with another interesting character, Martine Rothblatt, who is also a transhumanist.
And Rothblatt is a transsexual. He's a man that's appropriated simulacrums of women's biology for himself. And he calls himself transgender or a transsexual. And he's traveled around broadly in the culture in many different circles because he's accomplished so many different things. He's very well renowned and very well appreciated for his accomplishments.
He's been in the tech sector, he's been in the medical sector, he's been all over Hollywood, he's been on Oprah and he's been on a million different shows with his robot wife, which he created. Rothblatt wrote a book, and it's really a blueprint of what's going on in the culture now. This is his ideology working off of the work of Bainbridge whereas we're going to disintegrate the sexes, the boundary between the sexes, there'll be no youth and age, there'll be no male and female, transhumanism is like boundarylessness. You're out there in cyberspace.
Ultimately, while you're getting there, it's an upgrade in humanity, melding yourself with machines, transferring human reproduction to the tech sector. In the late 1980s, he got together with a whole bunch of other transvestites, lawyers and transsexuals, and they created a document which was the very first gender bill, which brings disembodiment into the law, the sexual objectification of female biology into parts and making a human right out of that.
Where he's going is full on disembodiment, where everybody lives in cyberspace. We live in a virtual reality. We don't live in our bodies anymore. We're going to be uploaded into cyberspace. In order to sell that to the public, transhumanism and disembodiment as a life, you're going to have to groom them and get them there.
And the way to do that is to create this ideology that says that you can choose your sex. That's disembodiment. You can't choose your sex. You are the body that you were born as, no matter what happens to you. In 200 years, if they dig up my bones, they're going to find a female. You can't change that. So the ideology is promoting the idea that you can. And they're driving this ideology into children's schools.
Not only their schools, they're driving it into their entertainment, their social media platforms, their schools. All the organizations that cater to children are all jumping on board with this ideology. And this has only happened in the past ten years. Before this, we didn't hear about this word. We didn't hear transgenderism. We didn't even hear transsexual.
In 2014 Laverne Cox was on the cover of Time magazine owned by Marc Benioff, and it announced a transgender tipping point when there was really nothing preceding that to warrant that that would be a tipping point. 2014, it was just, like, dropped fully formed into the culture, and then from then on, it was just like a chant over and over and over and over and over again, you heard “transgender rights”, “transgender rights are human rights”. These huge NGOs, these very huge, powerful non governmental organizations serving the LGB community, worked hand in hand with international law firms like Hogan, Lovell and Denton and Reuters’ Next Law and Open Society Foundation lawyers to start to create legal guides for “transgender children.” So they start to build this edifice of transgender children to drive this narrative that you can be born in the wrong body.
And so we heard all these initial stories about these poor children born in the wrong bodies, which now, a decade later, has morphed into “just express yourself”. You can be male, you can be female, you can be non binary. You can have both genitalia and this is all about self expression now. So it's really morphed in the course of ten years into the right to augment yourself in whatever way you see fit.
Bainbridge's technological religious cult meets Rothblatt's fetish, and they both take off together, and they're both now in the techno medical field here. And they drive this religion, and it is a cult. They're driving it over media, and people are buying it. I mean, sane people, people that are intelligent people. People are going, “yes, you can be born in the wrong body”. This project is backed by Big Finance, Big Pharma, Big Tech. And all the corporations, international corporations, international finance houses, international law firms, they're all driving the same narrative. You have to ask yourself, why would this happen in the span of ten years when human rights movements don't act like that, they don't come up like that.
They come up against these entities, corporate entities, to fight oppression, not to offer them more profiteering. So all of these people at the top are all thinking about this same thing and thinking about it in the same way. It's like Rothblatt and Bainbridge got together, they have this ideology that they're forming. Rothblatt has actually written about it. He's written about the technological takeover of human reproduction.
He's written about transgenderism being an onramp to transhumanism and how to drive that. He's given conferences all over on how to do that. So he's right there. He's starring in this movie, and he's trying to drive this ideology through our institutions. So then you have all these gay men who suffered through the AIDS crisis. Even if they didn't suffer themselves, they watched their brothers, their cousins die. The LGB human rights movement was very young when AIDS hit. So immediately, the medical industrial complex swoops in and is part of this movement now. And these philanthropic organizations come up to serve them and to serve the public. So once AIDS dissipates, though, you have these mammoths that were then LGB organizations teach them about safe sex and how AIDS is transferred and help for people. So they were getting all this money, and Big Pharma is profiting off of these AIDS drugs, and then suddenly, there goes AIDS, you know?
Then the issue became gay marriage for these organizations. And late 90s, early 2000, is when the first two major of what are now LGBT organizations came up in the United States. You have Tim Gill found the Gill Foundation, and then you have Jon Stryker starting Arcus Foundation, which is probably the most significant LGBT organization in the world. Arcus foundation, as well as Gill Foundation send millions and millions of dollars to our educational institutions, our medical institutions, prisons, organizations that serve the community, churches.
They're everywhere. Their money is everywhere. That funding mechanism is contingent upon adopting this ideology of gender ideology. And then these trans organizations started to come up, and this wasn't to serve transgender people or people that thought they were born in the wrong body, but it was to destigmatize this fetish of adult men within the corporate world, within the community, within schools.
When you're sending millions and millions of dollars to these cash strapped institutions like universities and schools and such and all they have to do is get on board with this progressive ideology. They've been told it's progressive. Who cares? It's part of the LGB, right? They don't really think about what they're doing.
And then at the same time, the media is promoting this as a human right. “It's a human right. It's a human right.” Well, there's tens of thousands of children that are identifying as transgender now, and you have thousands of children on these puberty blockers that disrupt your growth, ruin your bones, provide all sorts of complications, water on the brain, et cetera, et cetera.
And they usually graduate to cross sex hormones, which are even more dangerous, and they're going to be taking those for a lifetime, and they're going to be sterilized. I think the first children's gender clinic came up in 2007, and now we have hundreds of them all over the United States. Where did they all come from? And why? Nobody examines the issue. Why is this happening? Why are suddenly children like, “oh, committing suicide in droves, they're jumping out of buildings because they want to be the opposite sex”? We never heard about this before. If pharma could have made bank on this 50 years ago, we would have heard about it.
This is totally a top down arrangement of power and comes again from the highest echelons of society in finance and the founder of Outright Leadership, which is the business networking arm of the LGB, comes out of banking. The guy that runs it comes out of banking. Jon Stryker, head of Arcus Foundation, comes out of banking. There's no Harvey Milk character here. There's no grassroots activist here. These are all über businessmen. So you have a profiteering motive. Absolutely.
Drugs, surgeries, surgery equipment, and not just the hormones and the puberty blockers, but you have the antibiotics, you have the anti rejection medications, you have a myriad of surgeries that people want to have after they have this attack, basically on their sex, a medical attack on their sex. Then they want to get their neck done, and they want their Adam's Apple gone, and they want to have their jaw shaved off. And it's like a compulsion, and it's driven through technology. It's a consumerist orgy, and we're the ones being consumed. People. Our sex is being actually deconstructed. It's not just an idea, an ideology. It's actually happening. They are removing young women's reproductive organs at major hospitals.
So sex is actually medically being deconstructed, as well as ideologically and legally and linguistically in the culture. If you convince a whole generation of children that they can choose their sex, they're not going to know where they come from. They're not going to know who or what they are, because we as a species, are connected to the real world, to the natural world, by sex. That's how we're tethered to everything else.
Everything in the universe, in the biological world, is reproduction, regeneration, death. Regeneration, death. Regeneration, death. But you're teaching children that they can live forever, that they can choose their sex, that they can choose whatever they want to choose. And this is madness. It's absolute madness because it goes against the grain of reality. Why are they driving an ideology of physical dissociation from your sex to reality? This is what's going on here. Why is this happening? Confront that over and over and over again.
Well, it's all part of the medical tech sector that they're going to profit from. If you sterilize a whole generation of children, they're going to need reproductive services. You can't just go make a baby in your backyard with your partner. This is really an occupation. I mean, as a feminist, I see it as an occupation of womanhood. It's not just using our biology like it's used in prostitution or it's used in the sex trades. This is the pinnacle of objectification. “We're going to take your biology. We're going to wear it as a costume, first of all. And second of all, we're going to transfer this reproductive capacity that you have to the tech sector.” And this is why women are being legally erased in language and law. They just took woman, the word woman, out of the dictionary, in the Cambridge dictionary, and they replaced it with “anybody that feels like a woman”.
And the way that they do that, to transfer human reproduction to the tech sector, is through all the big fertility treatments that are out there now, freezing your eggs and freezing your sperm and surrogacy. And they're researching womb implants. It's profiteering, and it's social control in the sense that they really literally want to break sex apart. The boundary between the males and females of our species, they want to break this apart.
They perceive this as progress. You will be unburdened by sexual stereotypes, by sexual inequalities. Mothers and women won't have to have children. It's like, look, look at the tampon. You know what I mean? Suddenly, women could leave the house. You didn't have to sit in your backyard on a stack of rags. It's technology. It's the advancement of technology to “improve” our lives, but we never get a say in any of that. We don't get to say.
We don't get to decide. We don't get all the information. This is all elites deciding this for us. And it rides the bullet train of the market. Everybody is profiteering off of this now, even if they have no idea what it's about. Transgender modeling agencies, gender fluid makeup, photographers taking pictures of transgender children. It's everywhere. And this same message is being driven into their grade schools. By second grade, they're learning about gender identity, taking hormones. And this is all brought in under anti-bullying programs.
These programs were passed by Obama and funded by the Pritzker family, one of the most wealthy families in America. There's many of them. Jennifer Pritzker was an army colonel. He purports to be a female and runs around with synthetic sex characteristics of a female. And he drives this ideology into the psychiatric departments of major universities, into other medical institutions, gender hospitals, the military, et cetera, et cetera.
And his company, Tiwani Foundation, is partnered with Squadron Capital, which is a medical device company. So he's following the same trajectory of Arcus Foundation. Stryker Medical is a medical supply corporation. And they're going to be profiting off of these surgeries. Not just so-called gender surgeries, but human augmentation. When we open the door to these kinds of radical changes to our biology, the way that we're planted in the ecosphere, once we let that go, that tether, anything is up for grabs. You know, they can manipulate your DNA.
They can manipulate you any way they want.
And that's why these rights are, from what I can tell, why these rights, these gender rights are being passed. It's not about people that are allowing a medical attack on their sex. It's for future augmented human beings. I follow the money. And money trails do not lie. They tell you the truth. And I don't care how crazy I sound, because it doesn't matter to me. It just doesn't matter.
Just get the information out there so people can go looking for themselves. Because again, it's not hidden. And none of this is hidden. It's just that people are not looking for it. They're looking at the human rights angle, “these poor individuals, who feel trapped in the wrong body, my heart breaks.“
It's so ridiculous. All the governments, all of the politicians, all the major banks, all the financial investment houses, all the medical institution, the universities, the schools, the corporations, the the law firms, they've all jumped on board within ten years for “poor people that have identity issues, that have body dysphoria”, I mean, come on, this is so patently ridiculous. And people just gobble it up.
You have people that have body dysphoria related to their limbs, Body Integrity Identity Disorder, and they feel like their limbs don't belong to them. It's usually a lower extremity, a leg or a foot, and they feel like they're going to cut it off because it just feels so wrong to them. And psychiatrists have notorious difficulty trying to treat these people. But we haven't made any parades for them.
We haven't started a human rights movement for them. We haven't put them on the cover of Time magazine. We haven't had a makeup line for them or a modeling agency. I could say the same thing for anorexics, that's a form of body dysmorphia. Why is this only happening around these people who are claiming a synthetic sex identity? And why has it happened across the board in so many different countries?
And laws are changing and language is changing to uproot society the way that we're organized as a society. Why would you do that to people? It's absolute insanity. It's madness. Nothing means anything anymore, right? There's no boundaries, boundarylessness.
I started following the money around this issue because if you want to know anything in America, you follow the money, right?
And so I started following the money and I looked at all these different NGOs, these non governmental organizations that were really huge, like Arcus Foundation and Gill Foundation, they're mammoth. They've each given like a half a billion dollars to spread this ideology through the cultures, not just our culture, but Western cultures, because they fund other organizations that do the same thing.
And they create this whole scaffolding, this political scaffolding to drive it so that you have media people. You have people that are being trained in politics to get them into political institutions, like the Victory Institute, for instance, that's funded very heavily by Arcus Foundation and for instance, Rachel Levine was part of that organization.
They cull people from different schools in different areas that are going to work for them, and then they train them to be in these positions to drive policy through the culture, which Levine is doing if you've seen him speak. And so then they have media people as well. Like, GLAAD is the media arm. So GLAAD and Arcus Foundation are closely working together. And GLAAD goes about spreading information about how people are supposed to talk about this, because it's a human right and you don't want to offend anybody, right?
So the message comes from on high. And what I mean by “on high” is not Arcus foundation. I mean Stryker Medical. $17.1 billion U.S. corporation and growing by the day in 75 different countries. The medical industrial complex is bigger than the military industrial complex.
So I've picked out a few different characters that are very, very prominent and are doing a lot of work to change society and to change people's minds to drive this techno religion through our society. But there are many, many others.
Whether or not they actually know what they're doing, it's not quite clear to me. But most of them come out of the techno-medical industry, or the banking industry. We don't see big oilmen in the gender industry. We don't see automakers in the gender industries. This is all pharma, tech and big finance, BlackRock, Vanguard. The ideology is just so apparently ridiculous.
There are men, grown men with adult diaper fetishes. Are we going to have changing tables in the corporate arena for them next year? We have stores for them now where they can actually go and buy paraphernalia for their fetish. But why are we normalizing fetishes? Fetishes are a compulsion and it's objectification. It objectifies. If your fetish is for another person, it's an objectification of them. And we're seeing this because we're dissociated as a society. This has become our mode of expression now. Dissociation and compulsion, addiction, because we're trying to fill up the holes that the society has created. And instead of looking at the society and how damaged and broken it is, that it's not giving us what we need, all these aberrant behaviors are being supported in its stead, which is absolute madness.
Glisten is the educational arm of the LGBT inc, and they basically take care of educating the populace in schools, in community centers, they dispense gender ideology to them, like the old Christians used to come into the American Indian communities and indoctrinate them into Christianity. Well, this is very similar. It's a technological religion, and they're indoctrinating people to this ideology, promoting it as a human right. But it's a technological religious cult. You don't get to bow out of this. That's becoming abundantly clear to a lot of people. But they don't understand why.
Why can't we talk about this? If this is a human rights organization, a movement for human rights, why wouldn't you want to share that information with people? Why wouldn't you want to get people on board with it? Everything is transphobic. You can't speak about it. No debate. No debate. You can't talk about it, you can't even talk about womanhood, because that's transphobic. Everything is transphobic. I mean, it's becoming like a joke on social media now.
The construct of the transgender child had to be created. So these very large international law firms, lawyers, have created a legal structure for transgender children, and how to communicate about this, how to drive this ideology? They've created guides for people. So this is created through these enormous NGOs with these international law firms, and then they're sent down through the community, through people like GLAAD, organizations like GLAAD, right, who take that information.
Now, they indoctrinate the public. “This is a human right, and some people are born in the wrong body, and it's just the way that it is.” And then you have GLAAD, who takes care of the media. This is the way that you have to sell this to people, right? And then these universities are getting all of this money to promote this ideology, and so they do. So it's coming from every single avenue that you can think of in the culture.
Governor Pritzker just sent a bill through the schools in Illinois, Chicago specifically, that if you want health education in your school, you have to adopt gender ideology. You have to teach kids about gender ideology, which means you can change your sex, you can get hormones and puberty blockers, you can change your name, very sexualized material as well, very intense sexual material. They're teaching them anal sex, bondage and anything really, that you can think of. They're teaching them to young children. And so if you don't want this in this school, in your school, then you have to pull out of health education altogether. You don't get any health education. If you want health education, then you have to do this. So this, I think, was the first real platform of its kind to see how this went over. Most parents said, no, we don't want it, which is a credit to them.
But they're still pushing it. They're still pushing it all over the schools, and teachers adopt it. Parents adopt it because they think it's kind. They don't want to be seen as terrible people. “This is part of the LGB”. The LGB people have been accepted in society now, usually. Somebody knows somebody in their family somewhere, who's gay or lesbian or bisexual. And so it's like, “oh, this is just part of that”. This is what they've been told not once, not twice, over and over and over and over again.
The material that they're being exposed to is highly sexualized. They've got drag queen story hours, grown men dancing around with the G-string on and makeup and hair are flying, fake boobs bouncing, and this is supposed to be progressive and cool and fun. And they're teaching them about very sexual material, what partners do with each other. They're teaching them about hormones and puberty blockers and that you can change your sex if you want to. “This is just the way some people are. It's not a disorder. It's not anything other than ‘oh, it's just another way to be human.’”
I think we should just throw the whole thing out. Honestly, even as a feminist, I think that because it's so convoluted now, it's just ridiculous. You have a female body. That's really the only thing that makes me a female is my female body. It's not because I like long hair or because I like pink nails or want to run around in high heels or “I cry myself to sleep every night”. None of those things.
Those things are socially constructed. But they do have some small relationship to biology. Like, testosterone really drives male aggression. Even the women that are having their sex medically attacked, who call themselves men, discuss how aggressive it [testosterone] makes them feel.
We all have estrogen and testosterone. So there are propensities. And I really just say that with such caution, propensities of women and men to act a certain way because of their biology. Women have, generally speaking, smaller hands. We take care of infants. It makes sense, evolutionarily. But when you get into “female brains are smaller” and “they don't read as well”, or “men are better at math” or all those things are just ridiculous stereotypes.
But it's very difficult to talk about all of those things in this particular climate. So you have conservatives, for instance, going, “no, gender is not a social construct, females do like to do all these things” And then you have radical feminists saying that “it's totally a socialist construct”. I don't think any of those things are actually real. I think it hovers somewhere in between.
But feminists wanted to explain the difference between our biology and the role that is constructed for us under male supremacy, basically, where we get the shitty end of the attributes that are docile and non active and demure, whereas men get all the active qualities, assertive, take action, etc. So it was originally meant to talk about that hierarchy.
But now it's like I said, in this particular environment, it's completely useless. Just throw it the hell out. Talk about sex. Because while you're discussing gender, the corporate state is running away with human sexual reproduction and transferring it to the tech sector.
Women are being erased in language and law. It's like we don't exist. Rapists are being put in women's prisons because it doesn't matter. Sex doesn't matter. Only gender identity matters. The feeling that you have about yourself matters. So women are being erased in language and law, and mostly women are having their biology deconstructed. Young women are getting the double mastectomies. They're having their ovaries removed. They're having their wombs removed. It's way, way top heavy with young women having their bodies, their sexed bodies medically attacked. So this isn't just some ideological thing going around, of female erasure. This is actually happening. And you have to ask the question, well, why is this happening? Why would they do that?
And when you follow the money like I do, you find the answers. It's all going to the tech sector. They want to take over human reproduction with technology. People worry about, “Wow, this is crazy. Where is it going?” But look at where it is. It's absolute madness out there. You can't talk about reality without bringing the law down upon you. Women are being arrested, legally arrested for saying that men can't be women.
So where is it going? The money points to them sort of overlaying a virtual reality, over the natural world and subjugating the natural world. All the big techie guys, they're all talking about it. They don't hide it. Metaverse for Zuckerberg, Singularity for Ray Kurzweil who's also mentored Martine Rothblatt, he says, we're, in very short order, we're going to be living as a different species. We're going to be posthuman.
He's considered one of our greatest intellectuals, public intellectuals. He works for Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum. And he says that we're building a virtual reality, that we actually live in a virtual reality already, which I actually agree with, and that it's going to be more solidified and it's going to be more important and more significant than the natural world. And this is where they're taking this.
Whether they get there or not is anybody's guess, because there's not a whole lot of planet left for them to destroy and colonize in order to get the resources to build the tech that they need to do this, but that's never stopped anybody. Do you know what I mean? “We can't do it. We shouldn't do it” never stopped anybody.
Look at the way they're sexualizing children, too. The first people to dissociate from their physically sexed body are rape survivors and kids who have been sexually molested. They dissociate because they're being traumatized sexually. And they’re flooding children's mainstream media, their schools and other institutions with this highly sexual material. And it's just really overwhelming.
When you think about the things that we're exposed to, as adults, the crazy sexual activity that's out there, the wars, the violence, the shows that are on television, everything is so violent. Before the advent of the Internet, we didn't have that kind of exposure to all of those things outside of our own little community. So we become traumatized. And traumatized people don't move. Their initial response is to freeze. If you're being traumatized, somebody comes into a bank and they hold you up and they put a gun in your face, you're going to freeze, you're not going to do anything. And people are really sort of frozen in terms of responding to this.
This is absolute madness. When you have a young man on national TV talking about his castration surgery and you follow him into the operating room and then People magazine puts on a spread celebrating his penis goodbye party where he has a penis cake and this is a big celebration.
This is absolute madness. And we should all be saying so. And the fact that we're not is a very, very big problem that we've gotten to the point where we can't say what's real, what's horrible. It's absolute madness.
This is the discussion I have been looking for. Thank you, Kara and Jennifer, for putting all the pieces together. Helen Joyce's book Trans touches on all of this, but here is something I can share in a nutshell. Brilliant !!
A LOT of good facts in that interview. The conspiracy theory tone of it hurts rather than helps.
Who is behind this? Humans, and human nature, doing what they always do. Ambitious people reaching for new ideas, med/psych tools and tech that they can call their own, mentally ill people obsessing on unhealthy things, and the ever-present liberal mindset which absolutely LOATHES having to set boundaries. "No you can't do/have that, it's bad for you/others" is not normally in their vocabulary.
Those in charge in the 70s were able to hold it back for awhile. Hopkins shut down their own trans program, sacrificing what money and prestige it brought them, because they saw it wasn't helping, just enabling mental illness. They set an appropriate boundary.
Their successors in the field did not. They gave in to the privileged white male AGP narcissists and their gaslighting.
Those of us who have had the misfortune to be in relationship with an emotionally abusive narcissist are having unpleasant flashbacks. Now you all know what it feels like. At this point, the entire world is basically in an abusive relationship with a gaslighting narcissist in the persona of the trans movement.
The scariest thing to me about the gaslighting is that it's contagious. We see the liberal women and men who have been gaslit by trans activists turn around and use the same aggressive mindfuckery on others. A movement full of smart, educated people exercising not an ounce of self-awareness.