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Eleganta's avatar

It tears out my heart to hear Yal speak of conditions for girls and women in Afghanistan.

She's right--the leaders of the rest of the world just sit and watch as though it has nothing to do with them, as though they're simply watching a horror movie.

Except that they would react to a horror movie.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

The men don't have it great, and the women have it even worse. I remember reading A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khalid Hosseini and it was a compassionate portrayal of the conditions of Afghan women and girls. I wish Yal much success in helping her countrywomen get to live as humans they are.

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Me's avatar
Jun 29Edited

Ok, so, I don’t know where else to put this. Yesterday I was seated on an airplane next to what appeared to me to be a young man wearing a dress, with long hair, and a woman’s shoes and handbag. I am a TERF, but I have never encountered an actual person like this before. Maybe I don’t get out enough.

Anyway, he wasn’t really fooling anyone. His appearance was odd, to say the least, and I clocked him as male immediately. But he was pleasant enough throughout the flight. At the end he offered to help me get my bag down from the overhead compartment, in a voice that sounded sort of like a falsetto.

I think if a person wishes to present like this, he should not face discrimination in employment or housing. If I saw him in my bathroom, I’m not sure I’d mind. But I don’t think he belongs in women’s sports. He was over six feet tall with broad shoulders.

I was troubled by the idea that he might be expressing a sexual fetish in public and asking that we all accommodate it. He did sort of groom himself at the end of the flight, fixing his hair and primping in a stereotypically feminine fashion that looked odd and unnecessary, as though he felt that’s what a woman would do.

(Ironically, I was wearing my most comfortable sweats with no makeup, no handbag, and just trying to get through the flight and to my destination with minimal hassle. Most women don’t fly in a little minidress and matching handbag, in my experience.)

It’s easy to make all kinds of pronouncements about autogynephilia and misogyny in the abstract. But this person meant no harm to anyone.

Can we be kind to individuals with this condition and still advocate for the rights of women and girls?

Are men like this the people who are behind the “trans” movement, or are they merely trying to live their lives and not stand out?

How can they think they don’t stand out?

Wouldn’t it be simpler for them to acknowledge that they are men who like to present this way? Wouldn’t our society be better if we all just recognized that men can dress however they want, and that some want to dress like this? Or is being perceived as a woman too important to most of these men to give up?

Did this man think I didn’t know what he was, and did this give him a thrill?

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Tumblebug's avatar

I would've preferred to have been married off at the age of twelve, rather than being put out for rape by people with graduate degrees who were committing felonies. Put me right out into illegal foster placement with hard drug users, which I had no previous knowledge of. Now, they just sit on their asses and collect their salary from the public, and refuse to obey the law here in Lake County, California. Not one professed TERF with a graduate degree will respond and hold that white collar trash to account, thereby identifying themselves as same. I've heard it said that conservatives see women as private property while the liberals see them as public property. I was just seen as a non-person and these POS "pro-life" scumbags aborted me at age twelve. Much better to be valued as a wife than as a cocksleeve alone. Then on top of it all, I'm supposed to be grateful to be here among the childraping scumbags! No child can soar like an eagle when white supremacist turkeys squat upon them. IOOF-Rebekahs have been trafficking children here in California since the Nineteenth century. They need to get their childraping, domestic terrorist asses back to North Carolina. They stole millions of dollars from me in prevented income alone, before any compensatory or punitive damages are calculated, by denying me the Gifted and Talented Education I'd qualified for and my Korea military veteran father paid for. I would wear a full body veil right now if it would actually make me anonymous, but since the secret society f-ckers stole half a foot off of my height as well from deliberately torturing me the way that they did, it would probably just get me arrested. Please stop pretending that women in other countries have it worse, and inspire the lazy and spoiled white collar trash in this country to obey the law and actually do some work, the lazy parasites that they are. Thank you.

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