Sall Grover is infinitely admirable and courageous. The decision is infinitely asinine and idiotic. Someone put up this poem, by Wendy Cole, and I thought it worth including here:
Galileo had to recant his writings that he was able to prove the Copernicus theory was true. He was threatened with, "the instruments" and chose to hold his tongue. But science, truth and nature won in the end, as it always does.
I believe Sall expected this ruling. Australia is deeply corrupted by the Trans Moral Panic, and she knows it. My understanding is that she and her legal team expected to have to appeal.
Women were once burned alive as witches. How thin the veneer of modern "civilization" really is.
I find myself wondering why men claiming this are so ugly ? Is it maybe that they fail as men in the looks department but think they are not too ugly to be a woman ? Such contempt !
There are two types of men who identify as trans: the gay ones, who tend to be more feminine in mannerism and appearance to begin with and therefore aren't quite as grotesque in appearance, and the heterosexual ones, whose bodies are loaded with testosterone and everything about them screams DUDE!
Regarding the narcissism, entitlement, and hatred of women (because they're jealous of women), that's male psychopathology. Maybe a therapist can explain it. I sure can't.
Sall, I hope you read these comments. THANK YOU for your courage. I am inspired by you. I am so deeply saddened by this ruling. But as much as the trans activists want it different, sex is real and binary sex is reality. We keep fighting. We stand with you. Much love.
Amazing woman, Sall Grover. I'm disappointed of course, but in no way surprised. The situation in Australia is appalling and has been for a long time. A couple of years ago I had a Substack chat with a lesbian in Australia who told me that lesbians meet in secret now in order to keep out the men, but also to evade the long arm of the Australian gender police...literally.
A good Substack source for what's going on in Australia, the U.K., and other countries as well, is "Gender Clinic News." It's the excellent work of Sydney-based journalist, Bernard Lane.
BRAVO Sall Grover. Clearly the "judge" is himself a pervert who hates women. When we have a corrupt "legal" system, favoring males over females as always, we need to find another way to proceed. The rotten sewage is smelling more every day.
I knew the judge would rule in favor of the patriarchy. Australia and New Zealand have lost their minds and are beyond hypnotized by the Neo- pseudo- religious cult. Call Grover is still a hero for fighting, and not bending the knee to the patriarchy.
I'm as disheartened by this outcome as anybody, but what I really want to see is the Australian parliament growing a spine and changing this stupid law back to one that just protects women. That will be a way better, and more democratic, outcome than the judicial gymnastics required to find in Sall's favour. I think it's worth remembering that that is what's happening here: a captured government passed a bad law. They shouldn't be allowed to rely on the judiciary to fix it.
(And meanwhile of course I hope and trust that Sall is raising enough funds that she won't be out of pocket from this.)
Convention frowns on criticizing people for their appearance on the premise that they can't help how they look. It's churlish, gauche, infra dig and all that.
Well, convention never met a man like "Roxanne Tickle."
To yield to convention is to engage in self-censorship.
More to the point, the conventional rule does not apply in the case of Mr. Tickle. His face is a madman's idea of what a woman looks like. Furthermore, there is nothing immutable about it. It's not his skin color or an ethnic physiognomy that are rage-provoking. No. It's that disgusting red lipstick gash of a mouth and a homeless person's hairdo that makes him look like he was pulled through a hedge backwards. That is Mr. Tickle's insulting notion of what a woman looks like. If he wished, he could wipe that red mess off his face and get a man's haircut in half an hour. Nothing immutable about it at all.
Now, the deplorable outcome of this case is no excuse for harming Mr. Tickle or harassing or mobbing him in person, online or in any other way. The last thing sex realists need is to give a pseudo woman like Mr. Tickle a cause of action. However, his preposterous looks are fair game and ample grounds for sex realists to declare in gender critical forums such as this one where he is not present that ROXANNE TICKLE IS NOT A WOMAN.
I am not qualified to say whether an appeal is prudent. If I were there, I would be looking for other like-minded sex realists with whom to engage in peaceful acts of civil disobedience with the close prior and ongoing involvement and advice of a competent lawyer.
Sall Grover is infinitely admirable and courageous. The decision is infinitely asinine and idiotic. Someone put up this poem, by Wendy Cole, and I thought it worth including here:
HE TELLS HER
He tells her that the earth is flat —
He knows the facts, and that is that.
In altercations fierce and long
She tries her best to prove him wrong.
But he has learned to argue well.
He calls her arguments unsound
And often asks her not to yell.
She cannot win. He stands his ground.
The planet goes on being round.
Galileo had to recant his writings that he was able to prove the Copernicus theory was true. He was threatened with, "the instruments" and chose to hold his tongue. But science, truth and nature won in the end, as it always does.
So disappointed by this outcome.So proud to be the same sex as Sall, and to see her post-decision tweet.
I believe Sall expected this ruling. Australia is deeply corrupted by the Trans Moral Panic, and she knows it. My understanding is that she and her legal team expected to have to appeal.
Women were once burned alive as witches. How thin the veneer of modern "civilization" really is.
"How thin the veneer of modern "civilization" really is."
Yes, I am astonished by how thin it is.
I find myself wondering why men claiming this are so ugly ? Is it maybe that they fail as men in the looks department but think they are not too ugly to be a woman ? Such contempt !
There are two types of men who identify as trans: the gay ones, who tend to be more feminine in mannerism and appearance to begin with and therefore aren't quite as grotesque in appearance, and the heterosexual ones, whose bodies are loaded with testosterone and everything about them screams DUDE!
Regarding the narcissism, entitlement, and hatred of women (because they're jealous of women), that's male psychopathology. Maybe a therapist can explain it. I sure can't.
They're suffering from a delusion. They don't end up on the ragged edge of civilization like that unless they're mentally ill.
Sall, I hope you read these comments. THANK YOU for your courage. I am inspired by you. I am so deeply saddened by this ruling. But as much as the trans activists want it different, sex is real and binary sex is reality. We keep fighting. We stand with you. Much love.
Amazing woman, Sall Grover. I'm disappointed of course, but in no way surprised. The situation in Australia is appalling and has been for a long time. A couple of years ago I had a Substack chat with a lesbian in Australia who told me that lesbians meet in secret now in order to keep out the men, but also to evade the long arm of the Australian gender police...literally.
A good Substack source for what's going on in Australia, the U.K., and other countries as well, is "Gender Clinic News." It's the excellent work of Sydney-based journalist, Bernard Lane.
https://www.genderclinicnews.com/
BRAVO Sall Grover. Clearly the "judge" is himself a pervert who hates women. When we have a corrupt "legal" system, favoring males over females as always, we need to find another way to proceed. The rotten sewage is smelling more every day.
I knew the judge would rule in favor of the patriarchy. Australia and New Zealand have lost their minds and are beyond hypnotized by the Neo- pseudo- religious cult. Call Grover is still a hero for fighting, and not bending the knee to the patriarchy.
I'm as disheartened by this outcome as anybody, but what I really want to see is the Australian parliament growing a spine and changing this stupid law back to one that just protects women. That will be a way better, and more democratic, outcome than the judicial gymnastics required to find in Sall's favour. I think it's worth remembering that that is what's happening here: a captured government passed a bad law. They shouldn't be allowed to rely on the judiciary to fix it.
(And meanwhile of course I hope and trust that Sall is raising enough funds that she won't be out of pocket from this.)
Convention frowns on criticizing people for their appearance on the premise that they can't help how they look. It's churlish, gauche, infra dig and all that.
Well, convention never met a man like "Roxanne Tickle."
To yield to convention is to engage in self-censorship.
More to the point, the conventional rule does not apply in the case of Mr. Tickle. His face is a madman's idea of what a woman looks like. Furthermore, there is nothing immutable about it. It's not his skin color or an ethnic physiognomy that are rage-provoking. No. It's that disgusting red lipstick gash of a mouth and a homeless person's hairdo that makes him look like he was pulled through a hedge backwards. That is Mr. Tickle's insulting notion of what a woman looks like. If he wished, he could wipe that red mess off his face and get a man's haircut in half an hour. Nothing immutable about it at all.
Now, the deplorable outcome of this case is no excuse for harming Mr. Tickle or harassing or mobbing him in person, online or in any other way. The last thing sex realists need is to give a pseudo woman like Mr. Tickle a cause of action. However, his preposterous looks are fair game and ample grounds for sex realists to declare in gender critical forums such as this one where he is not present that ROXANNE TICKLE IS NOT A WOMAN.
I am not qualified to say whether an appeal is prudent. If I were there, I would be looking for other like-minded sex realists with whom to engage in peaceful acts of civil disobedience with the close prior and ongoing involvement and advice of a competent lawyer.