The Australian media is routinely referring to KJK as the ‘anti-trans campaigner’ and the LWS event as an anti trans rally, though they now concede it was gatecrashed.
This is a great victory for Moira but there’s still so far to go
I’ve only skimmed the surface, but even from that, it is extraordinarily detailed. This judge definitely did his homework and displayed, along with his judicial chops, ordinary common sense. Just one example:
“684 At all relevant times, including when he gave approval to release the EMD to the media, Mr Pesutto had before him, or available to him, evidence or material that a reasonable person would understand to make it readily apparent, contrary to Mr Pesutto’s claims on the day of his media “blitz” (20 March), that neither Ms Keen nor Ms Jones were Nazis, Nazi sympathisers, neo-Nazis or anything of the sort; that they in fact staunchly opposed such people and views; and that Ms Keen’s “association” with right-wing extremists and the like was an association only in the sense that she had agreed to be, and was, interviewed by individuals (like Mr Gariépy and Ms Soco from Soldiers of Christ).
“685 Mr Pesutto claimed that he had read the whole of the Pink News article, although whether he did, or did not, is not necessary to decide. Anyone who read the whole of it could only conclude, on the face of the article, that far from sharing the views of right-wing extremists, Ms Keen vehemently opposed them.”
Meanwhile, a California high school caved to a student uprising after hundreds of students showed up wearing T-shirts that read "Save Girls' Sports" to protest a trans athlete on the cross-country team, defying the school's latest dress code. [the T-shirt logos had been compared to swastikas] The school had previously put students in detention for wearing the shirts. But . . . the school did not dress-code students when they showed up wearing the shirts on Wednesday.
Hopefully this signals Australia's waking up to Woke after the appalling decision in Tickle v. Giggle earlier in the year. The case shows how widespread the TRA network is though, with the vast majority of public officials across the West and political spectrum being captured by it. Only strong women can save us now, and by standing up for herself and making such a powerful statement of intent to never give up fighting this fight Deeming has proven herself to be one of the strongest.
Nice thought, but unfortunately this case will have no bearing on TvG or the thinking that led to it. You can admit GC feminists aren't literal nazis without accepting a single thing we believe about 'gender'
You might be right, but I reckon the tone of the ruling and fairly heavy financial penalty to those that smeared women fighting for women's rights as Nazis, would put off any other politician from attempting to smear and silence gender-critical women like Moira. Hopefully it also gives others courage to take her position openly. I like to hope. But the fight continues for sure.
Yes it will doubtless put a chill on future defamation, not just by politicians but by anybody who's been paying attention. But it won't change anybody's mind about the merits of TRA/GC positions
That's true. A guilty finding re: defamation will not change anybody's mind on the merits of TRA/GC positions. But it's still worthwhile to hold these misogynist name callers responsible. The word "Nazi" is tossed around casually, as if it had no particular meaning or connotation. But it does have a meaning, an especially vile and despicable one.
Progressives know that attaching slurs like "nazi" and "racist" to a person they disagree with puts a target on that person's back and can lead to losing ones job or becoming a target of violence and other forms of harassment.
I guarantee that Pesutto will not be flinging that term around in public anytime soon, and the verdict will be communicated to other low-lifes with similar intentions.
The Australian media is routinely referring to KJK as the ‘anti-trans campaigner’ and the LWS event as an anti trans rally, though they now concede it was gatecrashed.
This is a great victory for Moira but there’s still so far to go
If of interest, the opinion of the court in Deeming v. Pesutto is online here: https://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/judgments/Judgments/fca/single/2024/2024fca1430
I’ve only skimmed the surface, but even from that, it is extraordinarily detailed. This judge definitely did his homework and displayed, along with his judicial chops, ordinary common sense. Just one example:
“684 At all relevant times, including when he gave approval to release the EMD to the media, Mr Pesutto had before him, or available to him, evidence or material that a reasonable person would understand to make it readily apparent, contrary to Mr Pesutto’s claims on the day of his media “blitz” (20 March), that neither Ms Keen nor Ms Jones were Nazis, Nazi sympathisers, neo-Nazis or anything of the sort; that they in fact staunchly opposed such people and views; and that Ms Keen’s “association” with right-wing extremists and the like was an association only in the sense that she had agreed to be, and was, interviewed by individuals (like Mr Gariépy and Ms Soco from Soldiers of Christ).
“685 Mr Pesutto claimed that he had read the whole of the Pink News article, although whether he did, or did not, is not necessary to decide. Anyone who read the whole of it could only conclude, on the face of the article, that far from sharing the views of right-wing extremists, Ms Keen vehemently opposed them.”
Meanwhile, a California high school caved to a student uprising after hundreds of students showed up wearing T-shirts that read "Save Girls' Sports" to protest a trans athlete on the cross-country team, defying the school's latest dress code. [the T-shirt logos had been compared to swastikas] The school had previously put students in detention for wearing the shirts. But . . . the school did not dress-code students when they showed up wearing the shirts on Wednesday.
To quote Kara: “if we can be heard, we will win.”
Hopefully this signals Australia's waking up to Woke after the appalling decision in Tickle v. Giggle earlier in the year. The case shows how widespread the TRA network is though, with the vast majority of public officials across the West and political spectrum being captured by it. Only strong women can save us now, and by standing up for herself and making such a powerful statement of intent to never give up fighting this fight Deeming has proven herself to be one of the strongest.
Nice thought, but unfortunately this case will have no bearing on TvG or the thinking that led to it. You can admit GC feminists aren't literal nazis without accepting a single thing we believe about 'gender'
You might be right, but I reckon the tone of the ruling and fairly heavy financial penalty to those that smeared women fighting for women's rights as Nazis, would put off any other politician from attempting to smear and silence gender-critical women like Moira. Hopefully it also gives others courage to take her position openly. I like to hope. But the fight continues for sure.
Yes it will doubtless put a chill on future defamation, not just by politicians but by anybody who's been paying attention. But it won't change anybody's mind about the merits of TRA/GC positions
That's true. A guilty finding re: defamation will not change anybody's mind on the merits of TRA/GC positions. But it's still worthwhile to hold these misogynist name callers responsible. The word "Nazi" is tossed around casually, as if it had no particular meaning or connotation. But it does have a meaning, an especially vile and despicable one.
Progressives know that attaching slurs like "nazi" and "racist" to a person they disagree with puts a target on that person's back and can lead to losing ones job or becoming a target of violence and other forms of harassment.
I guarantee that Pesutto will not be flinging that term around in public anytime soon, and the verdict will be communicated to other low-lifes with similar intentions.
BRAVO! Moira. thank you.
If I could dance I’d be doing the joyous Snoopy dance right now. For real.
Thank you wonderful women for fighting like the fearless lionesses you are.
Keep kicking at the pricks!
Fabulous choice! A sweet, sweet victory. A thousand thanks and huge congrats to Moira Deeming!