September 13, 2025
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In 2022, I had a conversation with Charlie Kirk. At the time, I was the president of the US chapter of Women’s Declaration International. The entire hour-long episode of the show is available here; I’m just sharing my 13-minute interview with him.
It was a wide ranging-conversation. Among other things, we talked about language, women’s sports, women’s prisons, and so-called “gender-affirming care” for children. We talked about what people can actually do to protect women and girls as a sex class from the harms of “gender identity.” A lot of political conservatives were made aware of the radical feminist critique of so-called “gender identity.”
I get a lot of flak for going on conservative media. To anyone who would criticize me for accepting conservative platforms, I say: “If you can get me a platform on CNN, MSNBC, or the New York Times, great. I’m happy to accept.” As I mentioned in a 2024 post called “Why Can’t We Talk About this”:
In large part, this is because Democratic elected officials and mainstream media outlets have an unspoken agreement: The leftist feminist critique of sex denial must never be mentioned. If states pass bills to prohibit “gender-affirming” pediatric cosmetic breast and genital surgeries, the feminist testimony submitted to the legislature is not reported. If feminist meetings are protested or even attacked to the degree that news outlets cannot ignore the story, Democratic elected officials like San Francisco Board of Supervisors President Aaron Peskin characterize the women’s meetings as “right-wing hate.”
So feminists like me are in a bind: Accept the occasional Fox News platform that reaches millions (as I did by appearing on Tucker Carlson Tonight several times before he left Fox News) and confirm the left’s smug certainty that we are not “real” feminists or leftists, or decline any platform with the slightest whiff of conservatism about it, and continue to toil in obscurity.
I’m proud of my 2022 interview with Charlie Kirk and I hope you have an opportunity to watch and share it.


